You read enough casino-related articles and they all start to sound alike.
Take this ho-hum dispatch from the land of inevitability, no doubt intended to stress-out and intimidate the good people of the Palmer region as much as it it to sell papers, entitled:
"Mohegans Seek Niche, Won't Tout Slots: Efforts to launch full-scale casino in western Massachusetts to stress 'non-gaming amenities' like food, entertainment'"
No, what mixes things up for me lately, are the comments following these articles - especially the articles in CT papers.
I suspect it's a little like sitting up at midnight watching the Housewives of New York City reunion episode. Hey, the series was fun - but you can't beat the candid comments that come out at the end.
It's all there - the good, the bad, and the ugly - and you cannot look away. And sure, some of it makes sense - but then, some of it is a lot like trying to have a conversation with Kelly with Bethany in the same room.
And so, I've printed the comments here, pro and anti alike, for your perusal and enjoyment. You can draw your own conclusions, but from what I can tell, if you like concerts and have an empty nuclear waste site just lying around - casinos are the way to go.
Ladies and gentleman, for your submission... postcards from the casino zone. (a.k.a Connecticut)
Posted - 5/18/2009 8:41:55 AM
"destroying what...peaceful beauty we once had" Hmmm, I wonder if the tribes said the same thing when immigrant colonists settled on their lands?
Posted - 5/18/2009 8:24:29 AM
The vice president of development will not showcase his raison d'etre, it's connotation allowing Palmer folks to denote soberly what's in store, so to speak, but the accoutrements buoyed by the gambling, or "gaming" in his words, amenities, indeed, to cajole.
Two Arms -- No Bandit
Posted - 5/18/2009 3:08:22 AM
I do not think gambling should be what all states depend on for income. The states already receive taxes from its people now they want our hard earned pay checks. Yes I do think casinos are great because it is some form of entertainment and I am happy to have them here in CT. But the jobs they create are low paying jobs and just barely keeps people off of welfare. If we eventually have a casino in every state it will make it way to easy for to many people to lose there money. Having said that casinos are great for entertainment purposes but to many people think they are going to win and end up losing everything they own. So we do not need casinos all over the place but just enough for the entertainment they bring.
Posted - 5/17/2009 9:21:20 PM
Taxes do not go down.Cost for the towns operation go way up.Thousands of more cars and trucks on the roads.Import most workers from NY.New workers live 10 or more in small homes.Have to hire many teachers for non english speeking workers children at 50,000 a pop.Locals think gambling is fun. Many go bankrupt.Nothing good about a casino for locals.Have you ever seen the slums behind the Atlantic city casinos? There is a reason for that.AlsoWorkers have to put up with 2nd hand smoke.The first 3 homes on the block will sell for tripple the value. The rest can only take what is offered.Local business on road to casino put signs in windows. Don' ask directions, we do not want to be bothered.Town would not put up signs, "not our job". The good news - great conerts..
Posted - 5/17/2009 4:56:50 PM
To, to John M from Uncasville. Most of the area where the casino is now used to be United Nuclear and closed down I believe in the early ninetys. Its better to have something there that creates jobs than some empty building. To say that it was all woods and chicken coops is not true.
Posted - 5/17/2009 4:54:31 PM
To the person who posted that the Mohegans have disrespected the land, the land that the casino sits on was a nuclear power plant and part of it was also an ash landfill. So, what are you talking about? The "supercenters" you describe were built by someone other than the tribe. That chicken farm you speak about has not been in operation for decades and the coops became run down and eventually collapsed. It is kind of comical that some of you blame the tribes for everything nowadays. While were at it, let us blame them for swine flu, Hurricane Katrina, the war in Iraq and the recession.
Posted - 5/17/2009 4:22:39 PM
John M, I agree with what you said. However, Norwich has always been a rat hole!!!! The streets of Norwich are terrible. The schools are over crowded and the crime rate is way too high. I'll stay here in Groton.
Posted - 5/17/2009 2:52:28 PM
We should make the Casino's a proposition,we pay them a percentage of revenue for a short period of time to get them to move the hell out!! All this gambling is just going to bring our local towns beauty and natural prosperity down.There was nothing good about them bringing gaming into our State,,all low paying jobs,more corruption,destroying what we local citizens once had,peaceful beauty we once had.
Used to be beautiful CT
Posted - 5/17/2009 2:16:10 PM
I agree with Mike, the bottom of Mt. Greylock is also close to ski resorts !!Many travel that route through the Mohawk Trails,especially during the fall as my family and I have done for years.That would be perfect and also close to New York Border !!
Posted - 5/17/2009 1:58:16 PM
How is it that they have all this money to build a resort in Mass. but they don't have enough to finish that new casino that is half done?
Posted - 5/17/2009 12:09:05 PM
Norwich has JUST become a rat hole? I grew up in Groton, CT and we ALWAYS thought of Norwich as a rat hole with New London coming in second place to a rat hole!
Posted - 5/17/2009 11:59:33 AM
I suggest Palmer area businesses pay a visit to our area and see how the casinos have benefited area restaurants and entertainment venues. The casino's goal is to keep every dime on site. The numbers being tossed about by those promoting gambling in Massachusetts are plucked from thin air. If one was to build a casino in Western Mass it should be in North Adams at the foot of Mt. Greylock. That is a terribly depressed area, but with wonderful potential. You could build a genuine destination resort there, one were gamblers could spend a week and do a lot more than visit the casino floor.
New London, CT 06320
Posted - 5/17/2009 11:59:05 AM
The cancer is growing! Bait and switch, mask yourself with entertainment then slip in the dark exploitive business of gambling.
Posted - 5/17/2009 11:35:07 AM
John M is so right. I have lived in Uncasville for 34 years and it used to be full of trees, not a stoplight to be seen, no traffic at all, Mohegan Sun was a forrest and chicken farm. It was beautiful country, now I pass Supercenters on my way to work and one mile on Rt. 32 takes 20 minutes. I miss the old country Uncasville was, before the Mohegans saw dollar signs and respected their land.
to John M
Posted - 5/17/2009 11:07:29 AM
I think it should become a full scale casino with table games. Not all gamblers play slots,although the slots take in alot of revenue.A penny slot machine "some may think they are saving," but in actuality it is costing them if not as much but more than playing 50cent - 1.00 slots.Depends on how many credits and lines they play,but usually it can be just as costly."SO, with me stating this,I believe you well see time down the road the areas becoming dilapidated and run down due to moneys going into slots ,rather than maintaining properties.You should have facilities to draw high rollers into that area rather than penny slots that well only entice the locals if you really cared about bringing in revenue to help the economy.Many from massachusetts already come into Mohegans Sun in Connecticut,arent you afraid that you would lose revenue from Connecticut ? If that happens are you going to be able to employ in Connecticut, or can your employees expect layoffs and more job cuts?
Posted - 5/17/2009 10:57:28 AM
'non-gaming amenities' like food, entertainment" .....and DRUNK DRIVING. Careful what you wish for Palmer, Ma. Build it and they will come.....
Posted - 5/17/2009 10:39:12 AM
John, Norwich IS a rathole, Norwich IS better than it was, by far, and Palmer IS a rathole, therefore an easier sell by the Mohegans.
Posted - 5/17/2009 10:34:51 AM
The millions of dollars that they claim will come to the area will be quickly sucked up by all the social needs like bi-lingual teachers, new schools, school expansions, new sewer rates, extra EMTs and police, and higher rents because of an influx of outside workers, not to mention all the crime. Just look at CT's statistics before you decide. And let's not forget all the traffic that doesn't stop at any local place to buy anything. It's off the highway, loose all their money, and back on the highway to limp home on an empty tank, only to leave tons of litter and bottles of pee on the side of our once beautiful roads. There are no winners here except the tribes.
Tired of It
Posted - 5/17/2009 10:31:50 AM
More Indian crap??? We were taken from our land, beaten, raped, forced into slavery, tortured and killed. Should not the "brothers" get a casino. The Indians were just pushed from somwe land. Think about the "brothers" and sisters" out there.
New London, Ct.
Posted - 5/17/2009 9:31:41 AM
Sounds like deja vu all over again. When Pennsylvania started slot parlors it was the established Atlantic City casino operators who flocked there along with their customers. Now AC cries over spilled milk everyday because they blew a slot monopoly in the east.
Posted - 5/17/2009 7:35:50 AM
If they have access to a $1.8 Billion line of credit, then why are we stopping the expansion at the current property leaving dozens of contractors and LOCAL construction workers hanging in the wind. I thought you guys were dedicated to Connecticut? You tell all of us you have no money, that BoA pulled your bonding saying you cannot afford to build this casino, but now all of a sudden a few months later you can afford to build one less than an hour away? I think you owe all these SE Connecticut folk an answer, because all I see is jibberish and lies.What are you going to do with those two brand new Cranes? Ship them to palmer and cover them in shrink wrap too?... Maybe you could also take some of that $1.8 Billion and finish construction on your already 50% complete Government center instead of letting it sit atop a hill and rott away. Just my opinion.
Posted - 5/17/2009 7:23:35 AM
Yup. Hide the real agenda,so if it happens the people of Palmer Mass. wont ever realize it till it's too late. I think everyone from Palmer should drive through Norwich to see what their town might look like someday.I "Bet" they would be real impressed at what a rat hole it has become.